The eb'' for the first trombone which Dvořák calls for in the Scherzo of the 1865 Symphony No. 1 in C Minor (Ex. 5.3) – a note one would customarily see only in an alto trombone part – appears to the present writer also to be one of the 'traces... of the author's lack of experience'.39 Dvořák entered the manuscript (Ex. 5.4, 5.5), his first attempt at writing a symphony, in a German competition, after which he never saw it again. He did not return to the C Minor Symphony, and thus it was never performed in his lifetime.40 The fact that Dvořák did not include the C Minor Symphony, amongst his symphonies shown on the list pictured in Fig. 5.4, indicates that he apparently did not consider it a proper work of professional merit.